CDC Aims to Appease Vaccine Critics

Officials Hope to Avoid a Crisis of Confidence in Vaccines, Critical for Public Health

By Arthur Allen 04/14/2008 | 26 Comments

One autistic girl -- a 9 year old from Atlanta whose illness is linked to an underlying medical condition -- has suddenly shifted the debate on the possible link between vaccines and autism. It’s not that Hannah Poling’s case significantly alters the evidence. But it has introduced uncertainties that pose a logical stumbling block for officials defending vaccines.

This has created a defensive posture in the Dept. of Health and Human Services, which was already struggling to maintain parental confidence in vaccination amid a number of small measles outbreaks around the country.

(Matt Mahurin) On Friday, the Centers for Disease Control’s Immunization Safety Office presented a five-year plan for expanding research into vaccine safety. The announcement, made at a regular meeting of a vaccine policy work group, the National Vaccine Advisory Committee, had been planned well in advance. But with the Poling case creating renewed anti-vaccine outcry, HHS took pains to invite vaccine critics. Improving vaccine safety “is a priority of the department, from the secretary on down,” said Dr. Bruce Gellin, head of the office that coordinates government responses to critical vaccine issues. Addressing a meeting attended by about 50 members of the public, many of them vocal critics, he added: "a crisis in confidence in vaccines could easily become a public health crisis."

Since 1998, parents of autistic children have been blaming selected vaccines for their childrens’ illnesses. Several large epidemiological studies have demonstrated that neither the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine, nor exposure to the vaccine preservative thimerosal, has any link to autism. Still, parental refusal to vaccinate children seems to be growing. Four different measles outbreaks this year have been linked to unvaccinated youngsters.

Even as the evidence against the autism theories has grown, some parent groups have lumped autism with other childhood syndromes like attention deficit disorder, asthma, juvenile diabetes and severe allergies, blaming “over-vaccination” for all these problems. There is no evidence this is true, but the apparent increase in such conditions has led many parents to search for culprits in the common exposures of post-industrial society. Some of the increases are due to better diagnosis, while some have unknown causes. Because nearly all children are vaccinated, it is impossible to completely rule out such theories, though they have little biological plausibility.

The guardians of 4,900 autistic children have filed claims in a national vaccine court established in 1986 to compensate children who offer plausible arguments of injury from vaccines.The trials involving the autism claims are expected to last for years.

But in November, the government conceded one of the claims. The parents of Hannah Poling have shown that she suffered a high fever and eventually became autistic following the administration of five shots when she was about two years old. She was later diagnosed as having a mitochondrial disorder, a condition in which brain cells malfunction because they lack energy to deal with stresses like fever.

Parent groups who continue to insist that vaccines are to blame for autism have heralded the case as evidence for their position. A 2005 study in Portugal showed that 7 percent of autistic children in one patient group had mitochondrial dysfunction. Another study, discussed at a meeting of neuroscientists this week, showed that 23 of 37 autistic children referred to a clinic with muscle-tone problems had mitochondria defects as well. Might such an underlying condition predispose kids to vaccine damage?

Most experts, like Edwin Trevathan, director of the National Center on Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, have discounted the significance of the Poling case. No one has previously linked vaccines to mitochondrial disorders, he pointed out. However, doctors have often seen that fevers from vaccine-preventable diseases led to the onset of neurological disorders in kids with mitochondrial dysfunction.

But absolute certainty on the extent of vaccine damage in this subset of children is not available -- partly because mitochondrial disorders are poorly understood. Last year, research into mitochondrial diseases got fewer than $12 million in NIH funding, according to Douglas C. Wallace, an expert on mitochondrial medicine at the University of California-Irvine. Questions as basic as the cause and the rates of mitochondrial disorders are unknown. Diagnostic methods are crude.

“This case raises a whole series of questions for which we have no answers,” said Wallace. The incidence of autism in mitochondrial patients, and the impact of infections or vaccinations on triggering the disease, are also unknown, he said. “Everything is this area is hypothetical.”

In an op-ed article in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Friday, Dr. Jon S. Poling, Hannah’s father and a neuroscientist, said that her case could help vaccine safety if it led to the use of a good diagnostic tool for mitochondrial disorder that would enable doctors to screen out babies for special treatment. But while such a tool might improve parental confidence, it isn’t clear how physicians would use it even if it existed. Kids with mitochondrial disorders are more prone to get sick following an infection, which in some ways would argue for more aggressive, earlier protection with vaccines.

Anti-vaccinists say the case argues for giving fewer vaccines in each visit. But scientists say there’s nothing about multiple vaccines, per se, that would harm children. Without scientific evidence, what’s the basis for deciding which vaccines should be delayed?

Terry Poling, Hannah’s mother, has said that something in the vaccines might have caused, rather than triggered, her daughter’s mitochondria to fail. If this were true, however, there would be no way to screen such children for special vulnerability to vaccines. Terry Poling testified at the hearing, and I asked her later about this inconsistency. “You’re right," she said, "there would be no biomarkers if the vaccine itself caused the damage.”

At Friday’s meeting, CDC vaccine scientists presented a plan for studying vaccine reactions in children with underlying conditions like Hannah’s. They also stressed their willingness to allow the “public” a “place at the table.”

“I’m not a suit. I have a story too,” said John Iskander, the Immunization Safety Office’s acting director. Iskander noted that he had cases of vaccine-preventable deaths in his family, and also a nephew with autism. “Although I don’t expect you all to believe this, I enjoy the work when we do find a risk as much as I do when we don’t find one.”

Lou Cooper, the former president of the American Academy of Pediatrics and a venerable advocate for children, expressed optimism about the meeting. “I know a majority of the people in this room. I trust all of you, your integrity and your humanity,” he said. “What’s dividing us is the gaps in our knowledge. When we have all the facts we tend to come to the same conclusions.”

He was followed by Nadia Carrini, a young woman who said she was speaking on behalf of her 12 year-old brother. According to Carrini, children are being used as “human guinea pigs,” exposed to vaccines that “have created the sickest generation in the history of America.” The implacable conviction with which she spoke indicated that it will take more than good studies to convince some people.

The vaccine establishment needs public confidence in order to protect public health. But is its goal to empower opponents of vaccination, or to get them to stop spreading dangerous nonsense over the Internet? It might never bridge the gap between science-based informed opinion and those who demand changes in vaccine policy based on no evidence. A place at the table is fine. But people with knowledge have to be in charge.

Or, to paraphrase a line from the early 1960s musical, “The Unsinkable Molly Brown,” someone has to stand up and say: “The Lord has answered your prayers; the answer was no.”

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ajm8127
Posted 04/14/2008 04:47pm with

Well, vaccinations caused my Crohn’s Disease too. Not really. Nor did they cause any other of these “epidemics”.

ADHD, caused by too much TV and video games. Then when you give you kid a book like in a classroom, the lack of blinking lights and immediate satisfaction aren’t nearly as exciting as Donkey Kong.

Juvinlie Diabetes, not feeding your kid right. McDonalds is convienent, and I know you have to get to your yoga class, but feeding your offspring correctly and developing good easting habbits early is pretty important too.

Too many allergies? Stop using hand sanitizer on everything, your immune system has to develop just like a muscle. If it doesn’t get this chance, then it is going to freak out and act like everything is deadly.

And Asthma? Well I just think that a widespread measles outbreak is a hell of a lot worse than Asthma. Ask Jerome Bettis.

carolinerodgers
Posted 04/14/2008 07:39pm with

A correlation between mitochondrial disorders and autism could be an important lead in understanding what is causing at least some cases of autism. There is scientific evidence that ultrasound can irreversibly damage mitochondria. For more information, read section six on the “Effects of Ultrasound on Biological Systems” at www.inchem.org/documents/ehc/ehc/ehc22.htm. The document, produced after ultrasound experts from around the world met in Geneva under the auspices of the World Health Organization, also provides a wealth of information regarding prenatal ultrasound.

gingertaylor
Posted 04/14/2008 08:18pm with

“Most experts, like Edwin Trevathan, director of the National Center on Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, have discounted the significance of the Poling case. No one has previously linked vaccines to mitochondrial disorders, he pointed out.”

Edwin Trevathan is not an honest man. A simple pubmed.com search turns up studies that show that thimerosal and aluminum, both in vaccines, are known to cause mitochondrial disorders.

I will just list three of each:

Thimerosal induces neuronal cell apoptosis by causing cytochrome c and apoptosis-inducing factor release from mitochondria.

Mitochondrial mediated thimerosal-induced apoptosis in a human neuroblastoma cell line (SK-N-SH).

Biochemical and molecular basis of thimerosal-induced apoptosis in T cells: a major role of mitochondrial pathway.

Aluminum impairs rat neural cell mitochondria in vitro.

Peri-nuclear clustering of mitochondria is triggered during aluminum maltolate induced apoptosis.

Aluminum-induced mitochondrial dysfunction leads to lipid accumulation in human hepatocytes: a link to obesity.

gingertaylor
Posted 04/14/2008 08:39pm with

“Anti-vaccinists say the case argues for giving fewer vaccines in each visit.”

... and if they were “anti-vaccinists”, wouldn’t they say the case argues for giving NO vaccines at each visit? Hmmmm…

maurinem
Posted 04/14/2008 09:12pm with

As you stated”people with knowledge have to be in charge.” This is a sad commentary on what has happened to our children in the last 15 years. We left you in charge and look what has happened to our children. Children have never been sicker with life long illnesses
And if you have so much knowledge and disagree with us on the cause of autism—what is the cause then?????? Seems you have no answer.
Your comments are horribly out of date and will no longer fit the present situation in the vaccine controversy.
We will never go away until the governments admits its mistaakes and helps our already sick children and stops this vaccine lunacy.
Onward and Upward.
Maurine Meleck
South Carolina

peacemakesplenty
Posted 04/14/2008 09:22pm with

Unbelievable. An article on vaccine-related autism that doesn’t even mention the word “mercury”. Mercury is the metallic component of thimerosal, which is an “Organomercuric compound” – other examples include dimethyl mercury, etc. These compounds easily cross the blood-brain barrier.

Thimerosal looks like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Thiomersal-2D-skeletal…

In the brain, mercury interferes with the development of neuronal cells. This can lead to “mitochondrial fatigue” certainly. The actual science here can be seen at http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v9/n9/abs/4001529a.html

What the science indicates is that some individuals are probably more sensitive to mercury poisoning than others, and these individuals are indeed at high risk from thimerosal injections due to the neurotoxic effects of mercury.

However, there are many other routes of mercury poisoning that may be far more important than vaccines – namely eating fish, but also living near a coal-fired power plant and breathing the air. However, the only accessible lawsuit target here is the thimerosal manufacturers, thus the focus on that. The primary source of mercury pollution is coal combustion.

So, get your facts straight, please.

sandygottstein
Posted 04/14/2008 10:47pm with

Arthur Allen writes “But scientists say there’s nothing about multiple vaccines, per se, that would harm children.”

Actually, at least one scientific study suggests there might well be something about multiple vaccines to worry about. It appeared in Science in 1986, long enough ago that some recognition of the importance of it might have ensued. In fact, in my 1993 testimony to the IOM, I brought it up, for what it was apparently worth. (http://www.vaccinationnews.net/Authors/SandyGottstein/IOM…)

Here’s the study:

Two avirulent herpes simplex viruses generate lethal recombinants in vivo.
Javier,-R-T; Sedarati,-F; Stevens,-J-G
Science. 1986 Nov 7; 234(4777): 746-8.
While it is widely appreciated that infection with a virulent virus can produce disease in an animal, the ability of a mixture of avirulent viruses to produce disease by means of complementation or recombination in vivo has not been established. In this study, two weakly neuroinvasive herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) strains were simultaneously inoculated onto the footpads of mice. Many (62%) of the animals that received a 1:1 mixture of the viruses died, whereas the animals that received a similar or 100-fold higher dose of each agent alone survived. Of fourteen viruses isolated from the brains of ten mice that died after receiving the mixture of the two weakly neuroinvasive viruses, eleven were recombinants; three of these recombinants were lethal when reapplied to the footpads of mice. These results show that two avirulent HSV-1 variants may interact in vivo to produce virulent recombinants and a lethal infection. They also suggest that different genetic lesions account for the weakly neuroinvasive character of the HSV-1 strains ANG and KOS after footpad inoculation.

All the best,
Sandy Gottstein
President, Vaccination News, A Non-Profit Corporation
http://www.vaccinationnews.org

autismnewsbeat
Posted 04/14/2008 11:16pm with

Excellent article, Arthur. Vaccine fear mongers have been around since Jenner’s day, and not one of their claims have passed the laugh test. Yet despite their shaky grasp of vaccines, statistics, epidemiology and toxicology, these people are still exerting an influence that far outweighs their means. I’m not particularly worried, though. In the end this controversy, as phony as it is, will be decided by the science. Your input is duly noted and appreciated.

ajm8127
Posted 04/15/2008 12:28am with

@peacemakesplenty,
good stuff!
I liked that even though you pointed out there is mercury in the preservative, which is a neurotoxin, that coal burning and even eating fish are “routes of mercury poisoning that may be far more important than vaccines”.
As thimerosal maybe be a problem in some cases, clearly we have bigger things to worry about. If the best that could be done at the time was thimerosal, and It prevented thousands of deaths, but gave a few people autism, potentially, what is really the greater good?
People see that the drug companies have money, and in this time of economic turmoil, they want a piece of the pie. But the price is making people scared of vaccines that have advanced western medicine and mankind alike.

cdt1
Posted 04/15/2008 06:23am with

@ajm8127:
You make one good point and one ignorant one. First, even if vaccinating America’s kids with mercury-containing vaccines triggered autism in some kids, those programs may nevertheless be defensible given the overall greater good. I understand, as do other parents of autistic kids, the utilitarian argument. But that merely points out the inherent conflict in the system: the government needs to reassure parents that there is no link between mercury and autism in order to induce parents to vaccinate their children. That society overall is better off because we have a mass vaccination program does not mean that any individual is not worse off.
Second, you are totally off base about this issue being a draw for money-grubbing tort victims. Claims must be filed with the special vaccine court, which is very slow to rule and only rarely sides with the claimants. Indeed, the potential legal relief is so laughable that I don’t know anybody who has filed a claim, even among lawyers with autistic kids I know. And that includes me.
If you want to posit that the vaccine program is still a net benefit to society, as was the polio vaccine system despite the fact that people very, very rarely got polio from the vaccine, then feel free. But don’t accuse those—like me—who think their autistic kids were a casualty of that system of bad faith or ambulance chasing. You have no frickin’ clue. Chris Thomas, Phoenix, AZ

dawnc
Posted 04/15/2008 09:47am with

Coming from a family with 4 vaccine injured members (myself included) I would take the measles any day! Thankfully many people are starting to wake the heck up!

Numerous studies have proven the link between all of the disorders and illness mentioned in the article. Unfortunately, we are told there is “still no scientific evidence” at this time. What a crock of BS!!

annes
Posted 04/15/2008 09:55am with

“Anti-vaccinists say the case argues for giving fewer vaccines in each visit.”
Calling us all anti-vaccine doesn’t work here. If we were anti-vaccine, we wouldn’t be arguing for FEWER VACCINES EACH VISIT, we’d be arguing for none.
You’re tripping yourself up, Arthur.

cdt1
Posted 04/15/2008 10:45am with

If I wasn’t merely a dumb parent who knows nothing about toxicology, I would note that one of the oldest principles thereof—dating to Paracelsus—is that “the dose makes the poison.”

3meatakeyourpick
Posted 04/15/2008 11:51am with

Dear Arthur,

I was so enjoying the first couple of chapters of your book and was getting ready to tell you when I came upon this article above. Unfortunately, you have misquoted me and made a couple of rather significant errors. First, I did not testify at a hearing-this was a working group meeting for vaccine safety in which i was allowed to make what was to be a 5 minute “comment.” Second, in speaking, I cannot imagine that I would have made a distinction between the vaccines “causing” and “triggering” the mitochondrial to fail. What is the difference? In fact, what I said was that the vaccines triggered her Autism. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, I did say that you would not be able to see the currently known biological markers of mitochondrial dsyfuntion prior to the vaccinations, IF the vaccination caused/triggered the dysfunction. However, you certainly could find the markers after the vaccines if it caused mitochondrial dsyfunction. So, before and after studies on a suspectible population, say for example siblings of known children with autism/mitochondrial dysfunction? I think there are possibilities afterall. Terry Poling

ajm8127
Posted 04/15/2008 01:21pm with

@cdt1

Sorry to make a generalization about all people involved in cases against faulty vaccines, but do you think I am wrong in saying that as soon as some people jump into suits, there are going to be a bunch more who want to ride in the bandwagon also? Especially if they see some sort of monetary gain coming from it.

@dawnc

Read some about the measles here: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs286/en/
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It is estimated that in 2006 the measles caused 27 deaths every hour. And that’s with the vaccine. The measles is also one of the most contagious diseases known.

cdt1
Posted 04/15/2008 02:12pm with

@ajm8127
Not really, given the nature of the national vaccine injury compensation program, which doesn’t exactly create an attractive forum for filing meritless claims in the hopes of getting bought off. Vaccine makers generally can’t be sued in regular courts, so would-be plaintiffs can’t seek the sympathetic ear of a state court jury as is commonly the case with toxic tort cases. Further, the apparent removal of thimerosol from childhood vaccines and the deadlines for making claims in the vaccine court further reduces any risk of a “bandwagon.” And I’m not sure that it’s fair to characterize the rare damage award for acknowledged harm as “monetary gain.” There’s no reason to believe that the vaccine court is a pro-plaintiff forum that will provide windfalls to plaintiffs with bogus claims.

beyond08
Posted 04/15/2008 03:30pm with

What blows my mind, is that no one speaks of a human beings senitivity to a certain agent. It is a major factor, so no infant should be vaccined. As a child gows we can more clearly see what he/she is allergic to.Test http://www.hsperson.com/pages/test.htm
That said, I give you this, “A single vaccine given to a 6 b infant is the equivalent of giving a 180lb Adult, 30 vaccines in one day.”- Dr Boyd Haley
Homeland Security, Sections 1714, 1715,1716, and 1717, protect companies like Eli Lilly from lawsuits by removing liability for any injuries that might result of any vaccines they manfacture.
From the cdc, “common” ingredients, found in vaccines, ALUMINUM, ANTIBIOTICS,EGG PROTEIN, FORMALDEHYDE,MSG and THIMEROSAL.
A great souce of news wwww.naturalnews.com Mike Adams is on the front lines. I belong to a blog on yahoo no-forced-vaccines.
www.tacanow.org is Jenny Mc Carthy’s site, and her book Louder Than Words, of which the powers that be do not admit her son’s recovery from autism. She and Jim Cary will march on Washington, June 4[check] asking to GREEN our VACCINES.
www.myspace.com/donalunamoon
Together we have a voice.
Peace-Love-Oneness
Dona

dawnc
Posted 04/15/2008 08:28pm with

ajm8127:

I feel sorry for you. If the only sources of your facts involving the vaccine controversy come from WHO, the CDC, the AAP, the NIH or any other agency that stands to profit from the sale of vaccines and the diseases THEY DO cause…then you are sadly misinformed. I however, obtain my “facts” from unbiased, well-documented studies which these same agencies have dismissed. Why? They stand to lose money if the studies prove to be valid. So, who will I end up believing in the long run? The poor scientist that doesn’t stand to gain anything by his findings.

alyric
Posted 04/16/2008 11:26am with

I know that both Terry and Jon Poling have stated publicly that vaccines have caused their daughter’s autism. Stating it so does not make it so. The HHS has conceded no such thing. Such a pity that the HHS made any concession at all.

mpsemac
Posted 04/17/2008 04:13pm with

Basic science research findings (see gingertaylor’s post) don’t prove anything. It’s a very long stretch from showing that thimerosal may cause mitochondrial disruption in human cancer cells to proving that thimerosal causes (or caused, since it’s been out of the vaccine pool for several years) autism. Much preliminary research ultimately turns out to be wrong, or is ultimately outweighed by other findings. “Cherry-picking” basic research findings to fit an argument is always a bad idea, and should be a red flag for people who are serious about discussing this very complicated issue.

Bizarre analogies don’t advance the discussion, either. Beyond 08’s post – “A single vaccine given to a 6 b infant is the equivalent of giving a 180lb Adult, 30 vaccines in one day.” – is nonsense. If things were that simple, then giving a 6 lb infant 30 ounces of breast milk a day (~ a baby’s usual daily intake) would be like giving a 180 lb adult 900 ounces (7 gallons!) of milk a day. Sounds like we should drastically cut back on breast feeding… Also: when did the Homeland Security Agency become a trusted source for immunization info?

jalolits
Posted 04/18/2008 11:46pm with

I’m glad to see this followup on a earlier article by Arthur Allen and to know that they are chapters of a book. The book is badly needed, as is plain from this set of comments, although it seems that authoritative information doesn’t weigh much against impassioned emotionality and a poor understanding of the concept of vaccination. I hope the book includes some history, notably chapter on Lady Mary Wortley Montagu, who in 1718 came back to England from two years in Turkey as wife of the British ambassador and inaugurated a campaign against smallpox, a disease that, as a direct result of that campaign, no longer exists, except perhaps in a vial in a lab, and I think even that last sample was destroyed. Vaccinations save lives—that fact shouldn’t be forgotten.

jalolits
Posted 04/18/2008 11:50pm with

Two words are missing in my comment just posted. Lady Mary Wortley Montagu ihaugurated a campaign of inoculations against smallpox.

buggsy
Posted 04/26/2008 04:24am with

How does the Hypocratic oath “Do no Harm” sit against the greater public good arguement.
My son now with Autism developed normally until the day after his shots. That day he started to push his head into the floor and stopped speaking. medical view – some sort of ideosyncratic behaviour. Right. Test done at this time to see what was happening….none.
Can you convince me this was a coincidence. No.
I am still looking for double blind study comparing a vaccinated group useing all the vaccines injected into my son vs a non vaccinated group.
I note the CDC are not confident enough to reference any of their advice. The make generalised statements without scientific backup. No wonder people are sceptical! Why don’t they have the courage to tell us that these types of studies have not been done and their advice is based upon their “professional judgement”.
How can they go on giving advice without the data to back it up!
I am not against vaccination but we need to do better research.

clayvessel
Posted 04/26/2008 10:58am with

A word of advice to Arthur Allen: Don’t reprint every word you read from CDC and NIH press releases as the gospel truth. That’s LAZY journalism… and it eventually subverts our democracy by allowing liars to get away with their lies at the expense of public health and decency. Why do you believe every lie you are told just because someone has a government ID card?

The NIH has NEVER conducted any autism studies of the UNVACCINATED…yet they issue reams of false propaganda stating that there’s no link between autism and vaccines….. they are being dishonest under the cover of “science” and only good investigative journalists can share the truth with the public—to rectify this sad situation. The Amish do not vaccinate their children and autism is almost nonexistant in their communities, as reported by their doctors. The NIH just ignores this important evidence and continues LYING about vaccines—- and reporters gobble up the misinformation..

Paul Mead has lied to the public on many occasions regarding LYMERIX—the damaging vaccine for Lyme disease. This vaccine was never withdrawn due to “lack of demand” (as stated by Paul Mead)—it was withdrawn because it DAMAGED thousands of people. NIH’s Paul Mead is thus a LIAR, and in the pocket of the big drug companies who will stop at nothing to peddle their poisons even it results in a life time of damage to children.

Journalists like Arthur Allen are part and parcel to the LIE when they unthinkingly reprint press releases without asking further questions and doing in depth research as a check to government “propaganda” designed to protect the rear ends of NIH officials. The NYT and Washington Post should be ashamed of their reporting!

When journalists fail to properly invetigate government’s statements—— we get tyranny—-as government officials are bought off by big pharma—- and untold suffering is the result of these lies.

Scientists may be intelligent—- but they are not necessarily moral individuals—- and good journalism should keep them in check.

Sadly, good journalism is now a thing of the past…

beyond08
Posted 05/05/2008 05:09am with

The CDC, www.cdc.gov has a fact page on vaccines. I included in my earlier post some of the ingredients that many people have allergic reactions to. I agree that vaccine language should not be in the Homeland Security ACT but it is, and sections 1714,1715,1716 and 1717, protect companies like Eli Lilly from lawsuits by removing liability. George Bush senior sat on Eli Lilly’s board in the 1970’s. Small world huh?
“FDA warns Merck about Vaccine plant problems” {Reuters] This is a FDA letter of finding
“significant objectional conditions” during an inspection beginning 11-07 and ending 1-08, in a plant that makes Gardasil. And yes some girls are experiencing health issues after receiving this “wonder” vaccine.
“It is not the Scientist who has the best product but the Scientist who puts on the best show” and haven’t we American’s used that as a measure for too long about far too many things?
While not ever child develops Autism as a result of vaccines, and reports put this at 1 in 150 children, why do we allow 5 vaccines at once and thus make it even more difficult to pin point the one that could be responsible for a specific ailment.
I read recently that children can develope speaking issues, per vaccines, and I wept. It was an ah ha moment. I have been researching very dilligently, as I had a 2nd child who did not speak[as to be understood by others] and I requested he be tested. His doctor say he was young, just to let it go, but I insisted and we found he had a severe disfunction and required intense therapy. I then recalled shortly before his 1st month of life, he was ill,high temperture ect, classic, after vaccine symtoms, and I think it is very possible that the speech issue was related to his sensitivity to a substance in his vaccine. CALL it a HUNCH. Whatever, same kid complained of a tummy ache at age 3, and after 3 days, I took him to his doctor, who found NOTHING. But to humor me he kept him in the hospital, and was going to open him up the next day to explore. He brilliantly began with his appendix, and my son was full of infection, having blown his appendix, 3 days before! 9 days later we went home with an open draining incesion, and a doctore who was taken with his brillant choice. As this kids MOM, I knew he was very ill. When science understands nature and nurture, we will all be better off.
Before there were vaccines, there were epidemics, people did die. Since vaccines, people are left with life long diabilities, and we all suffer with that economicaly. It is is devestating to the MOM and DAD, and could possibly be averted if a TRUE understanding was known to those who are in the power positions.
Check out www.healthfreedomus.org. The web is NOT a bad thing unless you take the first report as gospel. Research evokes many searches, before confirmation is made, and the puzzel pieces fall into place.
For those who place no value on human life and life long suffering, vaccines, a “one size fits all” is a “good thing” How sad , for our children.

johnrove
Posted 06/03/2008 11:47am with

My first job out of college was helping to test a Varicella(chicken pox) vacine. I worked with several people who helped to devolope the vaccine none of whom would let thier kids take it.
It seemed to me that the vaccine for chicken pox was more designed to be marketable than to prevent any real health risk. Especially when you factor in that people who are given the chicken pox vaccine may be at greater risk for shingles later in life.
I am not sure how much this adds to the “vaccines cause autism” debate but I think it is an example of non health related concerns leading to a needless shot, that might do more harm than good.

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